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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
		<link>http://www.shekky.org/blog/2009/08/pcd/comment-page-1/#comment-1512</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has to start somewhere........</description>
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		<title>By: Anthony Macchiarola</title>
		<link>http://www.shekky.org/blog/2009/08/pcd/comment-page-1/#comment-1501</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Macchiarola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of good ideas and information in the article. I wish I could say that I see all schools (or even my school) moving in this direction, but there really need to be some major perspective changes if we are going to embrace the concept of Web 2.0 as a whole. I, along with many teachers I know, use wikis, blogs, or some other type of collaborative communication in the classroom, but I wouldn&#039;t say it is the norm. And I don&#039;t blame many teachers for not adapting to the new method of truly incorporating new technologies into the classroom because (on the high school level at least) the end result is still the standardized test that is better approached by traditional teaching methods. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I love the idea of Web 2.0 and I think it is extremely beneficial to the students (and fun) but doesn&#039;t necessarily meet the administrations&#039; bottom line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of good ideas and information in the article. I wish I could say that I see all schools (or even my school) moving in this direction, but there really need to be some major perspective changes if we are going to embrace the concept of Web 2.0 as a whole. I, along with many teachers I know, use wikis, blogs, or some other type of collaborative communication in the classroom, but I wouldn&#8217;t say it is the norm. And I don&#8217;t blame many teachers for not adapting to the new method of truly incorporating new technologies into the classroom because (on the high school level at least) the end result is still the standardized test that is better approached by traditional teaching methods. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I love the idea of Web 2.0 and I think it is extremely beneficial to the students (and fun) but doesn&#8217;t necessarily meet the administrations&#8217; bottom line.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.shekky.org/blog/2009/08/pcd/comment-page-1/#comment-1102</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading Web 2.0, I am astonished that schools like this one even exist.  This is so different from the environment where I work.  I often embrace technology as a way to motivate students to make connections to present day, but I seem to be of the minority.  I would love to teach in school where a veteran teacher asks me for help with current technology, but often what I see, are disgruntled teachers upset about a lacking contract.
Reviewing the posts of my peers, I see that most of us are quick to tell the students to use the classroom computers to help them learn.  However, I have only on computer in my room and gaining access to the computer lab isn’t always easy.  The fact that my school doesn’t allow students to use handheld devices, such as phones and Ipods, is simply because middle school students have not exhibited that they can be trusted.  In other words, if they use an Ipod for my class, they will bring it to their study hall and instead of doing work they will listen to their Ipod.  I’ve created five long term projects this year, all using some sort of technology.  Each assignment took at least 3 days longer because the students spend time talking and they are easily distracted.  In fact, several students didn’t even finish because they lack time management skills.  I love teaching with a technological component infused in my curriculum, however I feel that there needs to be a compromise.  So many times I create lessons that involve a hands-on approach, but many students only work to complete the bare minimum.  This does little in the way of motivation on my end and I find myself asking the question, Why am I going to do all this work, if the kids aren’t going to appreciate it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading Web 2.0, I am astonished that schools like this one even exist.  This is so different from the environment where I work.  I often embrace technology as a way to motivate students to make connections to present day, but I seem to be of the minority.  I would love to teach in school where a veteran teacher asks me for help with current technology, but often what I see, are disgruntled teachers upset about a lacking contract.<br />
Reviewing the posts of my peers, I see that most of us are quick to tell the students to use the classroom computers to help them learn.  However, I have only on computer in my room and gaining access to the computer lab isn’t always easy.  The fact that my school doesn’t allow students to use handheld devices, such as phones and Ipods, is simply because middle school students have not exhibited that they can be trusted.  In other words, if they use an Ipod for my class, they will bring it to their study hall and instead of doing work they will listen to their Ipod.  I’ve created five long term projects this year, all using some sort of technology.  Each assignment took at least 3 days longer because the students spend time talking and they are easily distracted.  In fact, several students didn’t even finish because they lack time management skills.  I love teaching with a technological component infused in my curriculum, however I feel that there needs to be a compromise.  So many times I create lessons that involve a hands-on approach, but many students only work to complete the bare minimum.  This does little in the way of motivation on my end and I find myself asking the question, Why am I going to do all this work, if the kids aren’t going to appreciate it</p>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
		<link>http://www.shekky.org/blog/2009/08/pcd/comment-page-1/#comment-1062</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So his sister was going into labor...  But who was it distracting - the students or the teacher.  I bet students around him worked distracted at all.  It was the teacher.  If he was being inappropriate he could just be counseled in appropriate use.  But he was probably getting something out of the class.  I celebrate the fact that he was so focused on his family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So his sister was going into labor&#8230;  But who was it distracting &#8211; the students or the teacher.  I bet students around him worked distracted at all.  It was the teacher.  If he was being inappropriate he could just be counseled in appropriate use.  But he was probably getting something out of the class.  I celebrate the fact that he was so focused on his family.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
		<link>http://www.shekky.org/blog/2009/08/pcd/comment-page-1/#comment-1061</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark 1 this is not about you!!!!  So what are you going to do as the tech director to address the issues that prevent us from moving forward</description>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
		<link>http://www.shekky.org/blog/2009/08/pcd/comment-page-1/#comment-1060</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting but remember this is not about you Mark 1!!! And as far as the questions - well what are you going to do as a tech director to make those changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting but remember this is not about you Mark 1!!! And as far as the questions &#8211; well what are you going to do as a tech director to make those changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.shekky.org/blog/2009/08/pcd/comment-page-1/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough! It is electronic overkill. Too much. What ever happened to moderation in all things—computer use included?


I am an educational technologist who has been working in the field for over 20 years. I like progress. I like technology. Yet, I do not own an mp3 player. I really prefer cameras with film but use what is available, and have been known on rare occasion to Photoshop the results. I do not subscribe to RSS feeds. I do not read friends’ blogs and wikis although almost everyone I know has one—I’m just not really interested in what my friends and colleagues are doing every minute of the day. My cell phone which was purchased solely for the purpose of being accessible when there was an emergency is five years old. I do own a computer which I do use for work, school, and play. But, similar to the great Groucho Marx, (Go! Look him up, all you young’ns) and his cigar, I do turn the machine off once in a while, along with the tv and radio. Sometimes, silence is soooooo nice. 


That rant is over. Now for the next rant. I’d really like to know how other school districts get away with student texting, teacher web sites, student and teacher blogs and wikis. I’d really love to know. Did they shoot all the lawyers in those towns? Does every student really submit a signed acceptable use policy? Does every teacher have back up lessons to accommodate the student who’s parents’ religious or political (is there really a difference?) beliefs want to maintain complete control/censorship over everything their child is exposed to? When do these students learn to type fast enough to complete their school work within a given amount of time? Is the building educational technologist, the person who has some level of responsibility for enforcing the district AUP, supposed to tell his or her colleagues they can’t mention on their blog, web site or wiki that the homework they post is for their class. The district needs plausible deniability, just in case the teacher has some minor tidbit on his or her web site which might encourage someone seeking to make money off the district, to sue.


Will web 2.0 help in education? Maybe. Depends on what educational goals are being sought. 

Addendum.  Now that I&#039;ve found where to post. The skills we were taught as students to prepare us for the 20th century are not the same as those our students are learning for the first score of the 21st century.  The question is, will those skills still be relevant when these students become adults?  There are indications that the technology will completely change again.  Input devices will be totally different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough! It is electronic overkill. Too much. What ever happened to moderation in all things—computer use included?</p>
<p>I am an educational technologist who has been working in the field for over 20 years. I like progress. I like technology. Yet, I do not own an mp3 player. I really prefer cameras with film but use what is available, and have been known on rare occasion to Photoshop the results. I do not subscribe to RSS feeds. I do not read friends’ blogs and wikis although almost everyone I know has one—I’m just not really interested in what my friends and colleagues are doing every minute of the day. My cell phone which was purchased solely for the purpose of being accessible when there was an emergency is five years old. I do own a computer which I do use for work, school, and play. But, similar to the great Groucho Marx, (Go! Look him up, all you young’ns) and his cigar, I do turn the machine off once in a while, along with the tv and radio. Sometimes, silence is soooooo nice. </p>
<p>That rant is over. Now for the next rant. I’d really like to know how other school districts get away with student texting, teacher web sites, student and teacher blogs and wikis. I’d really love to know. Did they shoot all the lawyers in those towns? Does every student really submit a signed acceptable use policy? Does every teacher have back up lessons to accommodate the student who’s parents’ religious or political (is there really a difference?) beliefs want to maintain complete control/censorship over everything their child is exposed to? When do these students learn to type fast enough to complete their school work within a given amount of time? Is the building educational technologist, the person who has some level of responsibility for enforcing the district AUP, supposed to tell his or her colleagues they can’t mention on their blog, web site or wiki that the homework they post is for their class. The district needs plausible deniability, just in case the teacher has some minor tidbit on his or her web site which might encourage someone seeking to make money off the district, to sue.</p>
<p>Will web 2.0 help in education? Maybe. Depends on what educational goals are being sought. </p>
<p>Addendum.  Now that I&#8217;ve found where to post. The skills we were taught as students to prepare us for the 20th century are not the same as those our students are learning for the first score of the 21st century.  The question is, will those skills still be relevant when these students become adults?  There are indications that the technology will completely change again.  Input devices will be totally different.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay Wylie</title>
		<link>http://www.shekky.org/blog/2009/08/pcd/comment-page-1/#comment-1058</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Wylie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really agree with the statement that you said &quot;we need to educate, educate, educate, embellish, and embrace&quot;.  This is so true, but for some hard to accomplish.  A lot of educators are staying true to the old rules that students should not have certain things like cellphones in their possession at school.  However, our job is to prepare our students to go out and succeed in the real world.  Well, the reality of our world today is that many things involve the use of technologies like the cell phone.  So if this is the case, why not teach the students how to use them responsibly.  We should be making the students familiar with all of the resources that they could possibly be using when they go out into the workforce.  Unfortunately this is not the case.  I believe that this is true, because many teachers do not like to change their routine to accomodate others.  They feel that all students should be able to succeed in their classrooms.  But, if we do not base lessons around what students know and are interested in, we are only going to reach a small portion of our students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really agree with the statement that you said &#8220;we need to educate, educate, educate, embellish, and embrace&#8221;.  This is so true, but for some hard to accomplish.  A lot of educators are staying true to the old rules that students should not have certain things like cellphones in their possession at school.  However, our job is to prepare our students to go out and succeed in the real world.  Well, the reality of our world today is that many things involve the use of technologies like the cell phone.  So if this is the case, why not teach the students how to use them responsibly.  We should be making the students familiar with all of the resources that they could possibly be using when they go out into the workforce.  Unfortunately this is not the case.  I believe that this is true, because many teachers do not like to change their routine to accomodate others.  They feel that all students should be able to succeed in their classrooms.  But, if we do not base lessons around what students know and are interested in, we are only going to reach a small portion of our students.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael S.</title>
		<link>http://www.shekky.org/blog/2009/08/pcd/comment-page-1/#comment-1057</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my classroom I use Technology everyday being a technology education teacher.  I do not take the traditional approach to teaching all the time.  I often try to set up activities that are more student directed.  I try to help prepare the students for college and the real world.  I find that when kids enter my class they do not even know how to research without you telling them exactly where to go and what URL to type.  When they leave my room after the 20 weeks I see a change in their behavior.  They no longer ask question they use the web to research their question and find the answer they are looking for.  

This generation of kids is different from ones in the past.  They have grown up digital and computers, iPods, PSP’s, are part of their everyday life.  There are so many different things that we as teachers could use with these different technologies to help educate our students and keep them activity engaged in the learning process.  

I feel that many teachers are afraid to try something different along the lines of 2.0 or some kind of pod cast because they themselves are not comfortable using the technology and often times do not want to leave their comfort zone.  Times are changing and we as educators need to adapt to the change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my classroom I use Technology everyday being a technology education teacher.  I do not take the traditional approach to teaching all the time.  I often try to set up activities that are more student directed.  I try to help prepare the students for college and the real world.  I find that when kids enter my class they do not even know how to research without you telling them exactly where to go and what URL to type.  When they leave my room after the 20 weeks I see a change in their behavior.  They no longer ask question they use the web to research their question and find the answer they are looking for.  </p>
<p>This generation of kids is different from ones in the past.  They have grown up digital and computers, iPods, PSP’s, are part of their everyday life.  There are so many different things that we as teachers could use with these different technologies to help educate our students and keep them activity engaged in the learning process.  </p>
<p>I feel that many teachers are afraid to try something different along the lines of 2.0 or some kind of pod cast because they themselves are not comfortable using the technology and often times do not want to leave their comfort zone.  Times are changing and we as educators need to adapt to the change.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.shekky.org/blog/2009/08/pcd/comment-page-1/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt that technology does play a very important role in providing students with a contemporary education.  It is essential for students to have skills such as collaborating with peers using technology, as these skills will undoubtedly be used in virtually every career they pursue.  

However, one issue I&#039;ve noticed with respect to using new devices such as iPods and cellphones in the classroom is that they are used for real educational purposes a very small percentage of the time.  It&#039;s great for a student to be able to look up a quick fact or definition on their smartphone, but while they&#039;re finding out the information, they also check their e-mail, send a few text messages, and read their Facebook feed.  These devices are distracting, and in reality they end up providing an opportunity to lose focus and interest on the current task at hand. 

We recently had a &quot;Web 2.0&quot; guest speaker describe a situation where his student was constantly checking his cell phone in class, so he asked what the student was doing.  The student responded that his sister was going into delivery, so the speaker said it was fine that he keep sending messages, and what a great use of technology this was.  Clearly, this student was using his phone for no educational purpose whatsoever, and in my opinion, the student should have excused himself from the room to take care of his personal business, rather than create a huge distraction that had nothing to do with English class.

I am not proposing that these devices should never be used in the classroom, but they are only appropriate in certain situations.  One upcoming topic I will be teaching in physics is inertia, and I have students first pass a basketball around, and then pass a bowling ball around to compare the difference in inertia between the two objects.  I cannot think of anything you could put on the screen of an iPod or cellphone that would describe an object&#039;s resistance to change in motion better than this hand-on demonstration.

Students do need to learn many skills with respect to technology, as they will continue to use them on a daily basis for the rest of their lives, but I believe technology should not be implemented as an all-out replacement of hands-on demonstrations and lab activities that teach students core physics concepts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt that technology does play a very important role in providing students with a contemporary education.  It is essential for students to have skills such as collaborating with peers using technology, as these skills will undoubtedly be used in virtually every career they pursue.  </p>
<p>However, one issue I&#8217;ve noticed with respect to using new devices such as iPods and cellphones in the classroom is that they are used for real educational purposes a very small percentage of the time.  It&#8217;s great for a student to be able to look up a quick fact or definition on their smartphone, but while they&#8217;re finding out the information, they also check their e-mail, send a few text messages, and read their Facebook feed.  These devices are distracting, and in reality they end up providing an opportunity to lose focus and interest on the current task at hand. </p>
<p>We recently had a &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; guest speaker describe a situation where his student was constantly checking his cell phone in class, so he asked what the student was doing.  The student responded that his sister was going into delivery, so the speaker said it was fine that he keep sending messages, and what a great use of technology this was.  Clearly, this student was using his phone for no educational purpose whatsoever, and in my opinion, the student should have excused himself from the room to take care of his personal business, rather than create a huge distraction that had nothing to do with English class.</p>
<p>I am not proposing that these devices should never be used in the classroom, but they are only appropriate in certain situations.  One upcoming topic I will be teaching in physics is inertia, and I have students first pass a basketball around, and then pass a bowling ball around to compare the difference in inertia between the two objects.  I cannot think of anything you could put on the screen of an iPod or cellphone that would describe an object&#8217;s resistance to change in motion better than this hand-on demonstration.</p>
<p>Students do need to learn many skills with respect to technology, as they will continue to use them on a daily basis for the rest of their lives, but I believe technology should not be implemented as an all-out replacement of hands-on demonstrations and lab activities that teach students core physics concepts.</p>
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